Источник: Ukraine’s Unlikely President, Promising a New Style of Politics, Gets a Taste of Trump’s Swamp https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/11/04/how-trumps-emissaries-put-pressure-on-ukraines-new-president, Joshua Yaffa (November 4, 2019)
Интервью журнала "The New Yorker" (4 ноября 2019)
Politics is like bad cinema — people overact, take it too far. When I speak with politicians, I see this in their facial expressions, their eyes, the way they squint. I look at things like a producer. I would often watch a scene on the monitor, and the director and I would yell, ‘Stop, no more, this is unwatchable! No one will believe this.’
